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Post by redbaron on Aug 8, 2007 17:21:04 GMT -5
Welcome, Gracie. I see you know Bonds for what he really is. Also, you have Joe Morgan down pretty well, too. Welcome aboard.
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Post by gracie on Aug 8, 2007 18:09:28 GMT -5
Thanks for the welcome redbaron and yes I do know Bonds for what he is and I don't care what the record books now say. Mr Henry Hank Aaron is still the homerun king as far as I am concerned and will be until someone other than arrogant, steroid injecting, cheating ass breaks it. Bonds and his steroid bulked up body couldn't come close to filling the pinky nail of Hank and the respect I have for him.
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Post by hembo36 on Aug 8, 2007 19:41:36 GMT -5
actually didnt you proclaim him innocent not long ago, ab? I seem to remember you jumping all over me for that..you said' he hasnt been found guilty of anything yet hembo"
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Post by astrobuddy on Aug 8, 2007 19:46:06 GMT -5
No I didnt. Go look. That was another poster. Barry is guilty and there is much data on the subject. When we talked about this back then you didnt remember who it was and you accused me then as well. You apologized back then for getting it wrong.
Like you have been told over and over, please know the facts.
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Post by hembo36 on Aug 8, 2007 19:54:09 GMT -5
relax..i was just asking...what poster may that be since you seem to remember the thread?
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Post by astrobuddy on Aug 8, 2007 19:55:51 GMT -5
Lamearm
I doubt you want to make a thing about it.
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Post by hembo36 on Aug 8, 2007 20:04:20 GMT -5
why not? i somewhat agree...Look, roids or not the fckn guy has 756 hr's...thats a ton...One, and while you may not understand, you have to hit the damned thing first and roids sure as hell isnt gonna help there..Nobody has ever doubted Bonds moral character but hitting at that level period is incredible..I dont know if he used illegal drugs or not, but i do know for fact if the Fed had a case they would have tried it already...btw..I could say the same thing about everybodys beloved bagwell..being on the juice and all..the bottom line is none of these guys have been found guilty...yet
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Post by astrobuddy on Aug 8, 2007 20:11:25 GMT -5
uuhhh... Earth to hembo... Barry used Steriods and his personal trainer is sitting in a Federal Prison because he is refusing to testify. Was Pete Rose ever convicted of betting on baseball? NOPE! But he is damn sure guilty isnt he? Bagwell has never been accused nor as anyone ever mentioned his name in regards to steriods and the only reason you bring it up is to incite a fight with me. If Bagwell used steriods, I will be the first to condemn him.
I cannot even fathom that you are defending a piece of trash like Barry Bonds. The record is tainted. But rest assured, Your mancrush Arod will break the record if he can stay healthy for another 8 years.
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Post by hembo36 on Aug 8, 2007 20:15:09 GMT -5
hmmmbarry used them...you know this for fact...i wonder why he isnt in jail for at least perjury? Dont know about bagwell because it was a guess..Judging by his buck 05 whe nhe started and big as hell in his hey day...guess it was the personal trainer...as far as accusations go i have heard clemens many times and biggio twice...how bout them apples?
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Post by astrobuddy on Aug 8, 2007 20:18:45 GMT -5
Biggio's name twice? You have heard them from who? From an internet chatroom? I cant wait to hear your answer.
Barry is under Federal Investigation hembo... these things take a LOOOONG time. Please tell me you know what Balco is? If you dont you have no business talking on this subject.
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Post by hembo36 on Aug 8, 2007 20:39:41 GMT -5
Dude LMAO...if the fed had a case...never mind LOL
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Post by gracie on Aug 8, 2007 20:58:21 GMT -5
Typing this knowing I can be accused of being a "homer". In what shape, size, fashion or form does Biggio's body now or ever has looked like he has been on the juice??? Not trying to be naive here he just doesn't look like the roid enhanced ball player. I can understand the Clemens and Bagwell arguement as they possible could have but I'm not buying Biggio. I am now sticking my flamingo head back in sand and ignoring steriod issue in baseball. Never happened.....
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Post by astrobuddy on Aug 8, 2007 21:37:35 GMT -5
DUDE LMAO.. What the hell do you know about Federal Investigations or how a US Attorney builds a case? Probably alot less than you know about baseball. If you want to learn something about how a Criminal Case is built I can try and explain it to you.
Please explain in your vast Law Enforcement knowledge why is they Feds had a case ... or whatever it was you were trying to imply.
Gracie... he is just throwing it out there to incite a response. He will never give any supporting fact nor will be answer half the questions ask of him.
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Post by Coach on Aug 8, 2007 22:05:44 GMT -5
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Post by hembo36 on Aug 8, 2007 22:10:51 GMT -5
Thar she blows..Ab says its fact so it shall be...Gracie, just because one uses performance enhancing drugs doesnt mean they will all be Bonds/mcgwire big.. Take note of how these guys look when they come up and how they look a few years later..Creatine and products such as that are limited as to how much mass one can gain..Anabolic, HGH and a number of other drugs can make people a whole lot larger than what is in the normal range of natural development..Then again these drugs effect people in different ways..Just because Biggio isnt a 5'10 incredible bulk doesnt mean he is taking them or not taking them...
Another player accused Clemens and Biggio of taking them. Is that fact? Who knows..
AB, i can promise you i have a better understanding of the Federal judicial system. This is an argument you cant possibly win. Besides whats the point? No matter whats said you will either spin it or come up with some crazy nonsense that makes me slap my head for wasting time. I have proven something to you in the past with readily verifiable info and you still act the fool..whats the point, Mr Fife?
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