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Post by Coach2 on May 18, 2007 8:28:48 GMT -5
www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/4815156.htmlLet's encourage even more people to break the law by giving the ones who already did amnesty. Let's piss all f**king over the people who spent a sh*t load of money and time to gain citizenship the right way.
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Post by redbaron on May 18, 2007 9:35:14 GMT -5
We need to be spending money and doing whatever else is necessary to ship these t@ma!e e@ter$ back where they came from.
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Post by chandler44 on May 18, 2007 9:38:19 GMT -5
I don't agree with the amnesty, but at the same time, I don't think illegal aliens being over here is the most pressing issue facing this country right now.
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Post by redbaron on May 18, 2007 12:08:48 GMT -5
We've reached the point where those of us who pay taxes are the minorities in the state of Texas. These wetb@ck$ don't pay taxes and just drain us dry. We don't need a bill to legalize these criminals. ........we need a bill requiring them to be sent home. Let Vicente Fox take care of them.
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Post by chandler44 on May 18, 2007 14:04:49 GMT -5
Actually a lot of those guys do pay taxes and social security. The ones who work at the plants, fast food joints, etc are paying taxes just as much as the next guy.
We're a LONG way from the people who pay taxes being the minority.
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Post by texiban001 on May 18, 2007 14:15:13 GMT -5
I don't care why these gre@ser$ are here, they need to go home and apply for entry according to OUR laws. If they can't, then no entry. As far as having more pressing issues, there are a few but none affects the working men and women in this country as this because all these be@ner$ do is drive fown wages for all of us.
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Post by chandler44 on May 18, 2007 15:11:09 GMT -5
Yep. I don't care if they are here- just 'sign in on your way in', so to speak. Do it legally and through the proper channels.
As far as them driving down wages for all of us, I really don't buy that argument. I can pretty much guarantee you that they didn't drive down my wages. I also know that a lot of the places that have been hiring the illegals only did so because they couldn't find any legals to take those jobs.
The response is usually this - raise wages and they'll take the jobs. That's true, but why would those companies pay more for workers here when they can relocate to a foreign country and fill the factory with workers willing to take a much lower salary than most Americans can afford to live on.
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Post by hembo36 on May 22, 2007 20:47:57 GMT -5
The country needs low skilled workers..Everybody knows this..I am, however, not in favor of the blanket amnesty thats sure to come. I know that anything Ted kennedy is a part of is bound to be bad....
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Post by redbaron on May 22, 2007 23:49:13 GMT -5
Make the welfare crowd work or starve and their want be so many jobs for these cabbage pickers to get.
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Post by Coach2 on May 23, 2007 9:18:44 GMT -5
You don't want me to get started on the government freeloaders.
You have people having kids just to get more government money. These people have no intention of educating and raising their kids and are setting these kids up to be dependent on government assistance too. These people will be the first people in front of a microphone talking about being held down by others. They have a point, if intelligent people quit feeling guilty when pity parties are thrown and quit caving in and giving people who don't want to work and opportunity to do just that by giving them free money.
Here's a real life example of what happened to my family when dealing with the government.
As most of you know, I have an Autistic son.
Insurance does not cover therapy or rehabilitation treatment for Autism. Your choices are pay for the therapy or apply for government programs.
To send our son to a school for autism, the charge is 35 dollars an hour. The school districts do their best but there is not enough funding to provide 1 on 1 instruction for these kids. What you wind up with is 1 teacher and a couple of aids to cover 10-15 kids. The aids usually don't last long because they didn't realize what they are getting in to. My analogy is, they watch Rain Man and think they are getting that guy when in reality that character is far more functional than what they will wind up with.
So in the end you have to find a way to come up with 35 dollars an hour or force the school district to pay to get your child in alternative school. In the process of forcing the school district to pay you are most likely going to be sh*tting on the efforts of the hard working teachers and aides that are hamstrung by the lack of attention being thrown to an epidemic.
On to the government programs....
If you make over 27K a year, forget most of the programs.
We went to Harris County Mental Health and Retardation to learn about their programs. When we got there, they reminded me that I made over 27k, so I was going to have to pay 400 dollars a month for access to the 12 programs they have to offer. I said ok, tell me about the programs. They said that the charge for explaining the programs to me was 200 dollars. I said.. let me get this straight...you work for the government and your salary comes from tax dollars and now you want me to pay you extra to actually do your job.
She also told me that there was an additional 200 dollar charge to sign up for the programs. And that there was a 10 year waiting list on many of the programs. But i could sign up for the ones with no waiting list but still have to pay 400 a month for access to those. You can probably guess this but I'll tell you, the programs that were open were the ones that were of very little value.
When I had a chance to talk to the lady alone. She admitted there were a lot of scammers taking up space in the programs and that prevented people who really needed the programs from getting them. Getting your kid diagnosed as mildly autistic = government check for parents making under 27k. Getting your child in a program helps you get the check. She also told me that people were getting around paying by claiming the parents were divorced or custody of the kids were transferred to a third party.
There's a need for government assistance but the programs are overrun with people who have found a way to beat the system.
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Post by chandler44 on May 23, 2007 10:25:26 GMT -5
Maybe it's because my schools have been smaller schools or they're more afraid of lawsuits, but both times I've been at a school with an autistic student, that student had an aide that stayed with him all day and he went to regular classes for the most part.
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Post by Coach on May 23, 2007 10:40:55 GMT -5
No offense, Chandler. But if he went to regular classes he was probably mildy Autistic and didn't need 1-1 help. He needed help but not the amount of help that moderate and severe autistic kids need. Let me ask you this. What would your school do, with a 5-9 130lb severely autistic 10 year old boy? A child that is prone to fits and resorts to slapping himself in the face. A child that needs a teacher and aides with ABA training. They'd probably do what most schools are doing which is overwhelm the hell out of the special ed teachers and aides. I feel for those people because they burn out quickly.
Do you know that if you and your wife decided to have a child, that there is a 1-165 chance that your child would be autistic? Autism has the highest probablity of any condition that your child could be born with and among the least amount of funding for research or treatment.
The reason is pretty simple, Autistic kids don't make you feel sad when you look at them because for the most part they look normal.
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Post by Coach on May 23, 2007 10:45:28 GMT -5
Getting back to the topic, our tax money is spent on getting bilingual teachers to teach illegal aliens in their native language but we can't get enough resources to properly teach handicapped kids. Wtf is wrong with this picture?
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Post by chandler44 on May 23, 2007 12:39:08 GMT -5
No offense, Chandler. But if he went to regular classes he was probably mildy Autistic and didn't need 1-1 help. I'm not real sure. The first one that I actually taught was pretty mild. The kid here that I don't teach I wouldn't call severe, but not mild either. All I know is that they've had dedicated aides to stay with them all day long. I really don't know, Coach. That's not quite right, at least not in any situation I've ever been in. I've never seen a situation where foreign students received instruction in their native language. They might be hiring bilinguals in some area to help with the translations, but if they're teaching only in Spanish, then they're doing the kid a disservice and not doing what they're supposed to be doing. They could always do more, but I don't know if the lack of money is the problem. From 2000-02, the federal govt provided Texas almost $190,000,000 for special education. That's no small amount of change. www.wrightslaw.com/news/04/doe.funds.unspent.pdfIf those schools aren't doing everything possible for your son, you should talk to a lawyer. They have money. According to that report, over 10% of the federal money given to Texas for Special Ed. was not even used. |
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Post by Coach on May 23, 2007 13:07:13 GMT -5
If they were above mild they would be a huge distraction to the class and most likely not able to comprehend what was bing taught.
Then you haven't taught in HISD because I can show you elementary schools where the teacher speaks in nothing but spanish to their students all day long.
What the schools should do is. Hire ABA trained individuals to work 1 on 1 with kids who need it. What we get is a teacher with limited training trying to teach some aides that will most likely burn out from stress in a short period of time.
I'm already in the process of getting a lawyer to contact the school district to fight on my sons behalf. I'm not blaming the teachers at all for what's happening, it's the uncaring know it all school district administration.
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