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Post by Coach on Dec 4, 2007 9:54:28 GMT -5
www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5346606.htmlHere are my thoughts. I live about 3 miles from where Joe Horn does. 1. If people want to protest over the situation, do it at the Pasadena Police station. Quannel X was wrong for dragging people in to that neighborhood. 2. Joe Horn should go to jail. If you listen to those tapes. Joe Horn was told repeatedly to stay inside and let his hot temper get the best of him. The prisons are full of people who made stupid decisions when they were angry. 3. Your own property is not worth killing someone over let alone your neighbors property. 4. Joe Horn has no defense. If he was in harm's way, it was because of his own stupid actions. If he kept his ass inside like he was repeatedly told to do, those guys would most likely still be alive and probably in jail for burgulary. 5. What's with the USA chants? Was Hacksaw Jim Duggan there? I can't stand Quannel but he and his supporters are Americans too.
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Post by jbarron on Dec 4, 2007 10:33:36 GMT -5
I applaud Joe Horn. I hope my neighbors would do the same thing is some sorry pieces of trash were breaking into my house. If I were on Horn's jury.....if he goes to trial.....I'd vote not guilty in a heartbeat.
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Post by texiban001 on Dec 4, 2007 10:37:17 GMT -5
Coach, I'm going to have to disagree with you on some of these points:
1. I agree. Let them pull this sh*t at Pasadena PD. Can you spell taser?
2. Not so much. It might have been a stupid decision, but these two idiots were hardened criminals and they won't be stealing ever again.
3. You know my thoughts on this. I catch someone on my property that doesn't belong there and I believe that they are going to steal from me or harm my family, they are dead meat. That's why I have "NO TRESPASSING" signs on all sides of my land. Learn to read and obey. Plus, you know that if I lived next door to you and I saw a couple of scumbags stealing your stuff, I would kill their ass.
5. If he went outside and they made threatening moves or actions towards him on his property, he did the right thing. If not, we will let the DA and prosecutor decide that. Who cares if these two a$$h*les are still alive? The world is a better place without these scumbags and we don't have to pay for their trial or incarceration. Win-Win situation.
5. I saw a couple of guys that looked like Hacksaw, but they didn't have as many teeth! ;D Quannel is nothing but a jackass looking for a place to bray his "blackness". If this had been a couple of white guys that got gunned down by a black, under the same circumstances, he would be out there defending the black guy. Quannel N. has no credibility what so ever.
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Post by Coach on Dec 4, 2007 11:05:48 GMT -5
2. From what I've heard, your neighbors have to have asked you to protect their property and this yahoo admitted he barely knew his neighbors. He also said he was going to shoot them and then he said he was going to kill them. He needed to have said he was going to hold them at gunpoint until the police arrived. The guy is a hothead. Also, from what I have heard the burglary has to be at night and not in broad daylight.
3. You were at my house the time the peeping Tom was looking in the window. We chased that f**ker all over but we weren't going to kill him. He was going to get an ass whooping for sure if we had caught him. The difference here is this guy screwed the pooch stating he was going to shoot or kill them and not saying he was going to place them under citizen arrest until the cops arrived. He made threats and then acted upon them.
4. I could give 2 sh*ts about those worthless criminals. I just don't want Cowboys running around taking the law in to their own hands.
5. Quannel is a joke.
You guys do know that Joe Horn shot one of the burglars in the back. Kinda hard to argue self defense.
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Post by texiban001 on Dec 4, 2007 13:47:14 GMT -5
Damned shame we didn't catch that f**ker, he was a fast little bastard. While I don't agree with his methods, I do agree with the outcome. These two a$$h*les had several different ID's on them, it has been said that they were illegal. I don't care that he barely knew his neighbors. All I care about is that these two bastards will not be robbing anyone else of their hard earned property. My problem with Mr. Horn is that he should have waited until after he shot these a$$h*les before calling 911. BTW, where was Quannel N. when the constable was shot last week by a N-I-double g er? Quannel N was probably shuckin' and jivein' and eatin' a chickie wang over at the nearest Timmy Chans celebrating how another cop done had a cap blasted in his ass!
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Post by Coach on Dec 4, 2007 14:47:08 GMT -5
When you steal people's sh*t bad things happen to you. I'm not sad they got their asses shot, the problem is we can't have a wild west mentality where people take the law in their own hands.
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Post by texiban001 on Dec 4, 2007 15:30:50 GMT -5
The problem is that the Barney's are never where the crime is being committed. I have NEVER seen a cop show up while a burglary, home invasion, rape or murder is in progress.(Hard to do if you won't put down the doughnut.) The police cannot protect you or your property. That, my friend, I'm sorry to say, is up to the people. Cops can't do their job for fear of lawsuits by the criminals they are trying to apprehend or retaliation and termination by their superiors.
You know I live in the country(Bum F*** Liberty County) and we do not have a problem with break-ins or theft. We have gone off and left the door wide open for as long as a day and never found anything missing. The reason: out there, people know if you try some sh*t like that and the owner catches you, you will more than likely be in the obituaries the next day. We don't play around.
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Post by saavik on Dec 4, 2007 15:50:33 GMT -5
If there was more people that stand up to a s s h o l e s that steal sh*t then this would be a better world. I work right out of Downtown Houston not in a very good area of town about 3 years ago we were getting broken into left and right. I was getting calls from our alarm company 2 or 3 times a night. Each time I was called I told them to send the police. I also told the dispatcher that I have CHL and I am on my way to the property and to let the responding officers know that I do have my weapon with me. Upon arriving at my property we found they kicked in the front glass door. (Now mind you I have 6' fence all around property and razor wire across top.) They stole tools, a motor, try to cut into the safe,credit cards, checks, and some of our customers stuff. I asked the officers what can we do they said and I quote " This is your property and you can protect it accordingly" After waiting several months on the police to do their stuff. We finally put in a couple of calls to some friends we have on the force and they put us in contact with undercover officer who then came out and we finally caught the guy that was breaking in. (well it was more than one person but this guy got caught this time) One thing that they taught us is that a person that has a CHL is required to do something to stop the person/s from hurting your family, person and/or property. Now the key word is CHL. If a message is sent out to these theives that citizens are not going to stand idly by waiting for the understaffed police deptments to do their jobs.
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Post by Coach on Dec 4, 2007 16:12:25 GMT -5
The problem is that the Barney's are never where the crime is being committed. I have NEVER seen a cop show up while a burglary, home invasion, rape or murder is in progress.(Hard to do if you won't put down the doughnut.) The police cannot protect you or your property. That, my friend, I'm sorry to say, is up to the people. Cops can't do their job for fear of lawsuits by the criminals they are trying to apprehend or retaliation and termination by their superiors. You know I live in the country(Bum F*** Liberty County) and we do not have a problem with break-ins or theft. We have gone off and left the door wide open for as long as a day and never found anything missing. The reason: out there, people know if you try some sh*t like that and the owner catches you, you will more than likely be in the obituaries the next day. We don't play around. I don't disagree with handling business in your own home. It's another thing to handle your neighbor's business. The guy was given advice by the dispatcher and ignored it. He needs to face the music for that poor decision. The cops showed up seconds after he killed those 2.
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Post by Coach on Dec 4, 2007 16:20:22 GMT -5
The questions no one is asking...
Where are the neighbors? I don't hear them saying anything. Why did they have a bag of cash in their house? Perhaps they were involved in illegal sh*t. What if Joe Horn got killed defending neighbors that were getting robbed over drug money?
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Post by texiban001 on Dec 4, 2007 16:32:48 GMT -5
That is a good question. Where are the neighbors and where do they stand on this? I think that if they were doing anything illegal though, Pasadena PD would have found it while doing inventory on the house to find out what exactly was stolen. Maybe.
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Post by Coach on Dec 4, 2007 16:41:39 GMT -5
I hope Joe doesn't wear that hat to court.
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Post by jbarron on Dec 4, 2007 19:07:11 GMT -5
Texiban, did Coach ever tell you about the time he was arrested for being a "peepin' tom"..........he was looking in Holly's bedroom window. He had gotten away with looking in the windows of Natrae, Beetlebaum, and AG so he tried to do the same to Holly and she caught him and had him arrested. AG even gave him a video of herself and Speedy doing the nasty because she was so flattered that anyone would still want to look in her window at this late date......you know, vericose veins, crowsfeet. sagging boobs.
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Post by texiban001 on Dec 5, 2007 8:34:41 GMT -5
No, Coach never told me about that. I can't say as I blame him though. I didn't know he was into voyeurism! ;D
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Post by Coach on Dec 5, 2007 9:07:48 GMT -5
Texiban, did Coach ever tell you about the time he was arrested for being a "peepin' tom"..........he was looking in Holly's bedroom window. He had gotten away with looking in the windows of Natrae, Beetlebaum, and AG so he tried to do the same to Holly and she caught him and had him arrested. AG even gave him a video of herself and Speedy doing the nasty because she was so flattered that anyone would still want to look in her window at this late date......you know, vericose veins, crowsfeet. sagging boobs. It was all a big mistake. I thought I was looking at the elephant cage at the Houston Zoo. It turned out that Holly was actually the elephant and the guy I thought was a zoo keeper with an elephant fetish turned out to be JB.
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