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Post by astrobuddy on Jul 18, 2007 23:10:20 GMT -5
The thought of trading Lance Berkman is just stupid as has been stated unless you just get a deal that you cant pass up.
Just stupid.
Now, having said that. IF the Astros think it will be 4 or 5 years till they are contenders again, then you trade Berkman, Lee and Oswalt for the best prospects out there and totally rebuild. But that isnt the case. They are building towards 2012.
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Post by vega51 on Jul 19, 2007 3:48:19 GMT -5
Trading Berkman is NOT stupid.
Actually, is stupid not to trade him if you can get a lot in return.
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Post by redbaron on Jul 19, 2007 9:51:24 GMT -5
Berkman's blunders and pouting are getting old.
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Post by astrobuddy on Jul 19, 2007 10:01:37 GMT -5
Alot? Meaning players you have no clue whether or not they will pan out?
Berkman is an elite player. He is having a down year. You dont trade away these kinds of players in their prime because of a down season for prospects who may or may not turn out to be even good players. Vega.. I know you are hung up on minor league stats and young players but their is NO guarantee regardless of what you think.
For the money Berkman is being paid he is a steal.
Should the Cards trade Pujols?
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Post by Coach on Jul 19, 2007 11:32:22 GMT -5
Baseball, please.
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Post by redbaron on Jul 19, 2007 11:52:26 GMT -5
I don't see anything here that isn't baseball.
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Post by Coach on Jul 19, 2007 12:48:56 GMT -5
Read the entire thread again.
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Post by mikegallo on Jul 19, 2007 13:26:43 GMT -5
I'm guessing my post was 'not baseball'. I would have to agree.
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Post by Coach on Jul 19, 2007 13:48:18 GMT -5
Yours and anothers but not a big deal at this point. Just trying to keep the thread from getting moved.
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Post by vega51 on Jul 19, 2007 15:12:49 GMT -5
Connor Jackson and Young are major leaguers and Collaspo has majorleague experience.
There you have this team in 2 years:
C Towles
1b Jackson
2b burke
3b lamb
ss Collaspo
lf lee
cf young
rf pence
Lineup:
1. Young cf
2. Burke 2b
3. Pence rf
4. Lee lf
5. Jackson 1b
6. Lamb 3b
7. Collaspo ss
8. Towles c
9. Pitcher
Rotation:
1. Oswalt
2. Patton
3. Backe
4. Sampson
5. Juan Gutierrez/Fernando Nieve
We are SCREWED here, we have no pitching.
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Post by hembo36 on Jul 19, 2007 18:06:14 GMT -5
contrary to what some think, i wasnt just bashing berkman(although everything i have said is true) but trying to say the astros have a lot of future issues.. They WILL NOT be serious contenders with what they have and i doubt draytie will sink anymore money into the mix...The depleted farm system has more or less made the astros a second tier team for the next 3 or so years....Why keep berkman? do you keep him for three more years and then trade him? Sooner or later they will in fact move him..whether it be when contract is expired or before, he will be gone...JB and I are right on this one..he constantly looks lost running the bases, he b*tches all the time, he isnt worth killing on defense...bottom line is you may have already seen the best years from this guy....
The astros dont need a guy making 15mil per year and b*tches every inch of the way(ie wagner) i would trade him for 3 or 4 known prospects... if the prospects work out great and if not what difference does it make as you need to replenish the farm anyways... I admit berkmans up potential outweighs the negatives, but i do think 4 prospects would be killer right now
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Post by hembo36 on Jul 19, 2007 18:08:36 GMT -5
conor jackson isnt the one i would take from that squad...id probably try and get their third baseman, or young....
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Post by hembo36 on Jul 19, 2007 18:09:25 GMT -5
btw..i sure as hell wouldnt trade berkman for conor jackson..whats jackson done so far?
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Post by vega51 on Jul 19, 2007 22:16:20 GMT -5
Last year, as a rookie hit .291.
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