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Post by redbaron on Jun 2, 2007 22:55:07 GMT -5
Andy left the Astros because the Yankees were giving him a $20 million contract this season and Pettitte has an option to renew for 2008. Clemens went to New York because Pettitte begged him to come. Roger knew the Yankees were toast before he signed. Hell, they are like 13 games behind Boston and going nowhere. Drayton offered Andy $12 million with no options. Andy took the best offer.
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Post by vega51 on Jun 2, 2007 23:06:22 GMT -5
Also, Pettitte was not satisfied with the team, same with Clemens.
Baron, i disagree, Yankees, IF HUGHES AND CLEMENS pitches, they have a very good chance to win WC.
Why?
Detroit and Cleveland has to play Twins, each other and White Sox.
Yankees??? Only Boston, other teams are weak, Tampa, Baltimore and Toronto.
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Post by astrobuddy on Jun 2, 2007 23:59:47 GMT -5
LOL... You are picking the Yankees for the WC because it serves your purpose.
Vega, you are a good baseball guy. When you take the emotion out of it you are very smart about the same. You know alot of things I dont when it comes to the minor leagues and such.
The Yankees arent making the playoffs. It isnt just the pitching. That team is in as much trouble as the Astros for alot of the same reasons.
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Post by crashtest on Jun 3, 2007 11:47:24 GMT -5
Biggio is an a$$h*le because he whines to the media any time he gets his little feelings hurt. He doesn't realize that right now he is more a part of the problem than part of the solution. A leadoff man who consistently swings at the first pitch he sees is an idiot. How many times has this a$$h*le popped up swinging at the first pitch? What bothers me most about Biggio is his apparent insistence on leading off. Up until last week when he b*tched and moaned about it, I would get responses such as "you don't know whose decision it is to lead-off with Bidge". My point was that a guy who is HoF bound because he was 1) smart, 2)did all the little things right , 3) put the team in front of himself, yadayadayada SHOULD have gone to Garner and said, "Look skip, you and I both know I have no business leading off. My OBP sucks worse than my defense. Pencil me in for the 6 hole and I'll do my best to hack away and try to do some damage before the black hole devours the inning." But, no, he pouts and throws a sh!t fit and he's back to leading off. I'm trying to give him every benefit of the doubt. I'm trying to convince myself that beneath the millions upon millions upon millions he's been paidf to play a game, that somehow he has garnered the right to 3k hits, EVEN IF IT MEANS P!SS!NG AWAY an easy shot in a crip division. I remain unconvinced. Three or four starts, batting 6th was more than enough deference. What is going on now is pure, unadulterated SH!T FOR THE BIRDS. |
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Post by astrobuddy on Jun 3, 2007 11:54:18 GMT -5
I agree with that. Biggio should not be leading off.
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Post by vega51 on Jun 3, 2007 12:14:15 GMT -5
come on Astrobbudy, BIGGIO SHOULD NOT BE PLAYING, PERIOD.
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Post by astrobuddy on Jun 3, 2007 12:16:50 GMT -5
Biggio should be playing 3 or 4 times out of 7.
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Post by vega51 on Jun 3, 2007 12:35:04 GMT -5
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, 2 games out of 7, PERIOD.
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Post by astrobuddy on Jun 3, 2007 12:36:41 GMT -5
Vega... come on. He is going to play more till he gets to 3000 and should. No one wants this hanging on till seasons end.
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Post by vega51 on Jun 3, 2007 12:47:18 GMT -5
So we stop the development on OTHER players because of it?  ?? Why don't we THINK first about WHAT IS GOOD FO RTHE TEAM and not WHAT IS GOOD FOR BIGGIO? ? Thats the difference between you and me. I think win and team, you think 3,000 and Biggio. I give sh*t about that number, i prefer 95 wins over 3,000 hits from Biggio. |
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Post by astrobuddy on Jun 3, 2007 12:49:23 GMT -5
IN this instance, what is good for Biggio is also good for the team. I know you dont see it, but teams need a legacy. FA players look at how teams treat their stars.
I am not arguing Biggio is pretty much done. But even if you took Biggio out completely, things still arent good. Biggio isnt the biggest problem.
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Post by crashtest on Jun 4, 2007 3:58:51 GMT -5
"FA players look at how teams treat their stars".
That is probably the LEAST valid reason I've yet read as to why Bidge should be given such special treatment to get 3K. I'd be much more worried about whether draft picks would want to sign with us. Chris Burke was drafted and signed a few months BEFORE 9/11. He was supposed to be a middle infielder/lead-off hitter. He hasn't gotten so much as a Little League season in that role since.
Imagine if you were contemplating signing with Houston after the draft. "Let's see, Hunter Pence hits .500 in Spring Training and even HE couldn't earn a spot on the roster. Screw that".
Free agents are basically a bunch of rectal-holes who don't give a crap for anything but money. THAT'S why they are free agents. Not, "Gee, I think I'll sign with the Astros. Maybe I'll get a bronze statue, too".
I think it is best to continually develop young talent. Free agents, whores that they are, can always be found hanging around some street corner.
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