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Post by hembo36 on Dec 20, 2007 23:37:41 GMT -5
So far everybody is coming clean except poor old roger clemens..he said no way...This guy is a fckn turd, cheat, and his records mean jack squat...curt schilling was more than correct in saying clemens should be forced to give up 4 of his cy youngs to the runners up. theres NO way this guy belongs in the hall of fame and im guessing it will come back to haunt him...he is no better than barry bonds
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Post by jamesa46 on Dec 21, 2007 17:52:40 GMT -5
So far everybody is coming clean except poor old roger clemens..he said no way...This guy is a fckn turd, cheat, and his records mean jack squat...curt schilling was more than correct in saying clemens should be forced to give up 4 of his cy youngs to the runners up. theres NO way this guy belongs in the hall of fame and im guessing it will come back to haunt him...he is no better than barry bonds I agree...that puts Clemens in the same category as that jerk of all-time Barry Bonds. Both are in big time denial because their preception is that they are bigger than the game itself...everything else is secondary except their own pitiful over-inflated egos.
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Post by hembo36 on Dec 21, 2007 23:28:31 GMT -5
If he gets subpeona to appear somewhere he damned well better tell the truth or he could easily find himself in Bonds shoes...I really believe this trainer guy isnt lying...He would get into trouble..im sure ity seems like he ratted on clemens to save his ass(and he did) but he wouldnt just make this crap up
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Post by crashtest on Dec 23, 2007 3:53:51 GMT -5
Ummmm... JR never came clean in the cocaine era. He still hasn't and continues to live a lie. Apparently it is a hard thing for those with over-inflated egos to do.
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Post by crashtest on Dec 23, 2007 4:27:43 GMT -5
QUOTE: Not since the "Black Sox" scandal of 1919, when eight Chicago White Sox players admitted taking bribes from gamblers to fix the World Series, has the national pastime suffered such a loss of public esteem. QUOTE: The impact of last week's disclosures stemmed from the detailed, often poignant, testimony of baseball heroes who told of their own addiction to drugs and, for the first time, ticked off the names of playing buddies with whom they shared the affliction. The / timing could not have been worse. QUOTE: More names were added to the cocaine roster when Enos Cabell, 35, a former Houston Astros infielder now with the Dodgers, testified that his drug habit began in 1978 and reached a peak in 1981. "That was the strike year and we weren't playing and I had nothing to do," he explained. He said he finally quit in May of 1984. Cabell claimed that he had shared cocaine with four players: Dave Parker, 34, a two-time batting champion in Pittsburgh before going to Cincinnati last year, where he led the Reds in runs batted in (94); California Angels Al Holland, 33, a relief pitcher who set a club record of 29 saves last year with the Phillies; Jeff Leonard, 29, a San Francisco Giants outfielder who hit 21 home runs in 1984; and J.R. Richard, 35, the once overpowering Houston pitcher who suffered a stroke in 1980 and was released last year. Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,959815-1,00.html
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