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Post by hembo36 on Jan 6, 2008 20:36:29 GMT -5
Anybody watch it?
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Post by Coach on Jan 7, 2008 11:22:03 GMT -5
Yeah...and I'm more convinced Clemens is lying. He sounded arrogant as hell.
I laughed my a$$ of when he said the fame and glory meant nothing to him. THis from a guy that annually makes teams beg him to come back.
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Post by texiban001 on Jan 7, 2008 11:26:03 GMT -5
I had better things to do than listen to Roger lie. I had to catch up on some Flintstones! ;D
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Post by jbarron on Jan 7, 2008 12:50:06 GMT -5
I agree with Coach. Roger sounded like the arrogant, selfish a$$h*le that most people think he is. I would like to hear the responses of his former Astros teammates after they saw that interview.
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Post by texiban001 on Jan 7, 2008 14:28:23 GMT -5
His former team mates on the Astros won't say a word because Uncle Draytie has probably told them not to if they want to stay with the team. "Juicer" Clemens still has the personal services contract with the Astros, so the players can't slam Roger without making the owner look bad.
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Post by jbarron on Jan 7, 2008 18:37:36 GMT -5
I'm also guessing that Draytie is holding out hope that Roger will pitch for the Astros at some point this season.
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Post by crashtest on Jan 7, 2008 20:38:46 GMT -5
Yeah...and I'm more convinced Clemens is lying. He sounded arrogant as hell. I laughed my a$$ of when he said the fame and glory meant nothing to him. THis from a guy that annually makes teams beg him to come back. Really, how can Roger say that with a straight face? His wife, Debbie, runs a Baseball and Butterflies Boutique on-line where you can buy assorted knick-knacks celebrating his latest Cy Young, strikeout and win. There are minks that have been slaughtered and their pelts dyed pink to add fluff to a trailer-trash foo-foo jacket that is embroidered with Roger's latest claim to fame and glory. Now, I might buy his claim of 'roid innocence, but I call bullsh*t on his purported insouciance to fame and glory. Baseball and Butterflies ....... please. |
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Post by jbarron on Jan 7, 2008 23:00:46 GMT -5
If anyone believes that BS that Roger said about not caring about the Hall of Fame, I've got a some oceanfront property in New Mexico I'll sell you.
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Post by Coach on Jan 8, 2008 11:24:36 GMT -5
Roger Clemens was supposedly going to retire in hope that his mom could see him go in to the hall. That was a dumb move yesterday saying that to the HOF voters, they are an honery unforgiving bunch at times.
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Post by Coach on Jan 8, 2008 11:35:32 GMT -5
The main thing Clemens is hanging his hat on is that the Feds put his name in McNamee's mouth. Ummm..
They get the good on Rodomski. Rodmoski rolls over on McNamee, among others. Rodomski says he has supplied steroids to McNamee, a personal trainer. McNamee is the personal trainer for Roger Clemens. Duh....I wonder why the Feds started asking questions about Clemens and steroids.
McNamee initially lied for Clemens. The Feds said they had more than McNamee knew about on him and if he didn't come clean he was going to jail. McNamee then gave up Clemens and Pettitte. Clemens is pissed that he doesn't have a fool like Greg Anderson who is willing to ruin his own life so some pampered f**k can keep his ego intact.
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Post by jamesa46 on Jan 8, 2008 17:14:00 GMT -5
Let's get back to the big picture. What we are seeing concerning Clemens and his trainer is just another symptom of the bigger problem - the widespread use of illegal performance drugs in baseball.
Baseball cannot clean up it's own act. The reason is they ARE the problem! The owners, the players and the MLB Players Union. There is no way this problem could have grown as big as it has and for as long as it has without the help from the players union goons, the owners, players and their agents, trainers, scouts and the training combines run by the MLB in Central America.
Unless severe action is taken, major league baseball will have forever lost it's credibility and - in my opinion - function more on the level of WWF wrestling than as a legitimate professional athletic entity.
The game is back to 1919 in my opinion. MLB will have to fire Selig and appoint a baseball commissioner who is given full authority to operate carte blanc as was the case with Landis in 1921. This means banning ballplayers for life from the game and it also will mean taking the MLB Players Union to court and exposing them as co-conspirators in this entire steroid episode. It will also include expunging records from the official record books in the same way the International Doping Committee does when banning athletes from olympic/world competition and banning their records.
But, in the meantime, while Bud Selig is allowed to continue as baseball commissioner, none of the above ever will be done.
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Post by djv01 on Jan 9, 2008 21:18:48 GMT -5
I think the funniest part is Clemens and the other simpletons can't figure out how to do a cycle of gear with out having a grown man help them along the way. If they had a clue they would have done all this in the comfort of their own home/get away spot so no one had any knowledge. You can inject gear in your ass all day with no help.  |
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Post by sadoug on Jan 10, 2008 16:33:22 GMT -5
Great point james....did you see the article about Gossage after he got in the HOF?...He had some great comments about the game being more like the WWF these days than baseball.
His biggest critisism was about the way hitters are protected....no more throwing at em. Goose said if you threw WAYYYY inside letter high at a guy that EVERYone on the bench watched it and would not dig in...Now a days the pitcher gets ejected for that.
He said Bonds, Sosa, McGuire. etc have NEVER been knocked down in their whole careers where as AAron and all the other older players might get knocked down twice a game...and yet they performed. It just isnt the same game
As far as saves...in Gossages day you had to record 7 outs to get a save...today you can get one with one pitch....His point was that it is not possible to compare players accross eras
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Post by chandler44 on Jan 10, 2008 17:14:48 GMT -5
Are you sure about the 7 out thing? That's the first I've ever heard of that. Looking back through Gossage's game logs, he has several saves of 1 inning or even less.
He does have a lot of 3 inning saves and some even longer than that. He wasn't the 1 inning specialist they've become now.
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Post by sadoug on Jan 10, 2008 18:20:15 GMT -5
that was what I read in the Gossage article. He didnt say that during his whole career he needed 7 outs, but for the first part of it that was true....what he said was he had 52 over 7 out saves, and trevor Hoffman had one...I am not sure however....I thinjk I read it in yesterdays USA TODAY....
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