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Post by Coach on Jun 23, 2007 18:43:27 GMT -5
msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6954198?MSNHPHMANORTH RICHLAND HILLS, Texas (AP) - Former major league outfielder Mel Hall has been charged with sexually assaulting two girls in 1998 and 1999 when he was coaching them on a select basketball team. The 46-year-old Hall was released from jail Friday on $35,000 bail. He was arrested the previous day on charges of sexual assault of a child under 17 and aggravated sexual assault of a child under 14, police said Saturday. The second charge carries a possible life sentence because of the age of the alleged victim. When Hall was arrested, there was also an unrelated outstanding warrant on a theft charge, police said. Hall could not be reached for comment by The Associated Press on Saturday. Several phone numbers listed in his name were incorrect or disconnected. Police said they are looking for other possible victims because Hall was a girls basketball coach and organized a baseball camp in the area. Hall played in the majors from 1981 to 1992 and again in 1996 for the Cubs, Indians, Yankees and Giants. He hit .276 with 134 home runs and 620 RBIs in his career. What a scumbag!
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Post by hembo36 on Jun 23, 2007 21:55:28 GMT -5
Im not getting it? They're no longer minors. The statute of limitations is only about 3 years... 1998 and 1999?
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Post by chandler44 on Jun 23, 2007 22:40:52 GMT -5
What makes you think that their is a statute of limitations for ~3 years in cases like these?
Do you think he shouldn't get in trouble because they're no longer minors??
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Post by hembo36 on Jun 24, 2007 0:01:48 GMT -5
No he shouldnt..This puts me in a rather unique situation. Im not telling you all the reasons why i say this(and no im not a douchebag like him) but the law is the law. We as a society are all bound by the rule of law. We dont do the vigilante justice thing as if this was still the 1800's .
A civil person, in society, follows set laws and when they dont they're punished. My personal feelings matter not as this looks rather clear cut . Keep in mind, different states have different laws. Now he can still probably be punished but probably not to the degree the papers are saying. Its irrelevant how old they were when it happened as they're both adults now. Especially in the 17 year olds case. That makes her, what, almost 30? She just now found out what he did was wrong? His defense lawyer will have him out in record speed.
Its sad but more than likely true...This case sounds like the catholic priest thing. Grown adults now coming forward to say so and so priest molested them 30 years ago...cha ching$$$$
Just so im not jumped here. im far from liberal..Ive been a conservative Republican my entire adult life. There are two federal agents, a US prosecutor and a HPD officer in my family...All im saying is that this guy walks...
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Post by astrobuddy on Jun 24, 2007 0:43:31 GMT -5
I am not sure what you just said, but I read it mean you dont think he should be prosecuted.
But to clear it up the statute of limitations thing... Some states, in the case of Sexual Assault of a Child, LIKE TEXAS allow for the time period to begin when the victim turns 18 and run for 10 years after that, so this case would fall within that time frame.
He only walks if they are lying. If it can be proven he did this and he has mutliple victims he will and should go to jail for a long time. It shouldnt matter when he got caught.
I am a little shocked at your attitude about this hembo. Do you think he just stopped 9 years ago? I highly doubt it. He has more victims out there.
He needs to be hammered if he did this, period.
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Post by crashtest on Jun 24, 2007 6:55:06 GMT -5
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Post by hembo36 on Jun 24, 2007 8:39:22 GMT -5
I dont think thats accurate, ab. Dont get me wrong bro. this guy is clearly a douche bag. Im just stating this will not happen. The facts surrounding it sound too suspicious. I dont think your info is accurate, but i can easily find out
So if this happens to say a 16 yr old ,then the law says from age 18 the limitations is 10 years? So in this 16 yr old scenario its actually 12 years? I know thats not accurate...
I do, however, agree that he probably hasnt stopped.
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Post by chandler44 on Jun 24, 2007 8:44:36 GMT -5
Yes, and when you have sex with a minor, the law says you get in deep trouble. What 'law' says that this guy can walk free? The statute of limitations on rape in Texas is 10 years, not 3 as you suggested. This guy can get prosecuted.
Why do you keep saying that? It's *very* relevant. The age of the girls is the key factor here. It doesn't matter if they're legal now, they weren't when he touched them. If some sicko rapes an 11 yr old, and she doesn't get the courage to tell someone until she's 18, should the sicko not be punished because 'she's legal now'?
I don't think the 'just found out' it was wrong, more likely she just got the courage to come forward. You read countless interviews, stories, etc where the victim says how hard it is to come forward and admit anything. It's not as simple as if someone steals your truck.
LOL What in the world does that have to do with anything?
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Post by astrobuddy on Jun 24, 2007 11:02:48 GMT -5
What wont happen? This case? He has already been charged hembo. Its happening.
You dont think what is accurate? The Statute of Limitations in Texas? Look it up. It is abosolutely accurate. Its the law. Remember hembo... this is what I do for a living. I kinda know more about this stuff than you.
If you are sexually assaulted when you are 12 years old, but charges arent filed until you turn 27 years old, the case is solid.
Where DNA evidence is taken there is NO statute of limitations in Sexual Assault Cases, NONE. Just like Murder.
Why are so so against this? Is this because he is a former Yankee and we all know your love for all things Yankee.
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Post by hembo36 on Jun 24, 2007 11:22:20 GMT -5
You dont think what is accurate? The Statute of Limitations in Texas? Look it up. It is abosolutely accurate. Its the law. Remember hembo... this is what I do for a living. I kinda know more about this stuff than you. ahaaa..i kind of doubt it bro ;D It is 10 years though..i admit i was wrong..He will walk though...We can revisit this
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Post by chandler44 on Jun 24, 2007 11:24:49 GMT -5
It is 10 years..He will walk... Your math isn't very good hembo. Even if it is just 10 years, the incidents occurred in 1998 & 1999. That would mean they have until 2008 & 2009. In case you haven't noticed lately, this is 2007.
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Post by hembo36 on Jun 24, 2007 11:28:30 GMT -5
No..You're confused, bro . He said 10 years from the time they're 18..i gave a scenario of a 16 yr old..so thats actually 12 yrs..right?
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Post by chandler44 on Jun 24, 2007 11:35:11 GMT -5
Found some info to help out here:
"The statute of limitations for the prosecution of a sexually violent offense against a person younger than 17 years is set at 20 years from the victim's 18th birthday. "
That is written in House Bill 8 which was passed and signed into law by the Texas Legislature during the past session. It goes into effect Sept. 1, 2007.
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Post by astrobuddy on Jun 24, 2007 11:36:54 GMT -5
hembo... what do you kind of doubt?
That I know more about the Texas Criminal Law than you?
I wont say he walks or doesnt because I dont know the facts of the case. But he wont walk based on time lapsed. He will take a plea if anything.
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Post by chandler44 on Jun 24, 2007 11:42:46 GMT -5
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