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[jbarron]

No way in hell would I trade Everett, Burke, and Patton for Tejada.....who is going downhill. I'd trade for him to play third base if we could unload Wigginton, Burke, and either Patton or Scott, I'd do the deal. If we are interested in upgrading the defense we don't trade the best SS in the NL for a guy who is beginning to play shortstop like Biggio played 2B last year. I'm in the minority but I'd vote a loud NO on this deal.

[hembo36]

i actually have to give baron props here...he didnt jump ship on everett...theres something to be said about that in itself...board is filled with guys who talk tall about everett until he is in the midst of being traded and then its 'adam who' classic

he(tejada) is on the way down? seems when that argument came up about berkman everybody was a solid' downyear' the only way berkman is going downhill is if they traded him for so and so

[chandler44]

jbarron said:

If we are interested in upgrading the defense we don't trade the best SS in the NL

Apparently there is some concern about Everett's leg and his range since the break. I've read in more than one place that perhaps he's not going to get to as many balls as he used to.

[chandler44]

hembo36 said:

board is filled with guys who talk tall about everett until he is in the midst of being traded and then its 'adam who' classic

Who on this board 'talk tall' about Everett and then changed their tune today to "Adam who"?

I know you're not referring to *me*. Just because I'd be willing to move him for the HUGE offensive upgrade we'd get over Everett, that doesn't mean I think any less about Everett's defense (when healthy).

I'd rather them move Wiggy and play Tejada at 3b, though.

[hembo36]

bs...Its classic chandler...you, baron and a few others were so high on adam that everytime his name came up you made him sound like ozzie fckn smith...now we have all the excuses in the world to jump sh*t..it was done with lidge and everybody else thats no longer a home team guy

[chandler44]

now we have all the excuses in the world to jump sh*t

Where are these excuses to jump sh*t? What in the hell does jump sh*t mean anyways? Did you mean jump SHIP?

[dennis2112]

All things being Equal, Hembo, I would prefer Tejeda over Everett.

But that does mean that I feel Adam cannot play ball. I have been one to agree with the assessment that Everett is one of the best if not THE best defensive SS in the majors. There have been more than a few folks that have rating systems that prove this.

However Big T has an offensive game at SS that we have seen in Houston since...Hmmmm.. maybe d*ckie Thon....maybe never.

Add Big T into our lineup and we are one of the best offensive teams in the NL. Add in a pitcher or 2 and have some of the young arms play up to standards and the Central can be won and the playoffs are a REAL possibility.


If no trade is made, then you turn your eyes to getting more pitching help and hope Adam continues with his defensive wizardry to help the pitching staff.

I don't see a problem here, either way the Astros win.

[WarningTrackPower]

jbarron said:

Notice this thread was started by someone who has never posted here before. My guess is that this is all bullsh*t and no trade has been made.

How does the number of times I've posted have anything to do with the accuracy of my post? If you heard 790 yesterday they were reporting the trade as a done deal. At the time I couldn't find anything to back it up, but I posted what 790 what reporting anyway.

[sadoug]

For one thing this wasnt posted by someone that never posted before...In the past his posts have beentop notch.

For another thing....reading some of the "regulars' posts make me think that a new guy might be brilliant in comparison.

[texiban001]

Some guys take this forum WAY too seriously. I heard the same thing on 790 but I tend to take anything those guys say with a BIG grain of salt.

[jamesa46]

Isn't it way past the time to keep debating how good Adam Everett (Wingnut) is with the glove at shortstop?

Who cares if Ozzie Smith was flashier? The difference between The Wizard and Wingnut is that Everett's range is so outstanding that those flashy plays that Ozzie made looks easy and routine when Everett makes the same play.

Everett is arguably the best glove man at shortstop in the game.
The argument is, are the Astros willing to part with the best SS glove man in baseball for offense at the position?

My opinion of Tejeda is when he was exposed as a trafficer in steroids on the Orioles and his power numbers went down it was not a coincidence. My opinion is he then got off the juice himself for fear of being caught red-handed....he may still be exposed when that Mitchell report is published.

I look at it in this light....as Commissioner Kenneshaw "Mountain" Landis said concerning the "Black Sox" scandal....any ballplayer being found to be in association with gamblers will be banned from baseball. In that light, Tejeda should be banned because of the fact he has been found to at least to have been actively associated with the trafficing of illegal steroids.

The Astros may trade for him but I wouldn't touch the guy. Tejeda is one of the many parts of why the credibility of the game has been damaged and I don't believe the Astros should acquire him.

If they do trade for Tejeda, they are - in my opinion - openly expressing that character and credibility does not matter and are willing to accept being part of that group who continue to look the other way and act as the Ostrich with his head in the sand.

The quiet and unassuming great leftfielder for the Chicago Cubs Billy Williams said many years ago that baseball needed to do something about the widespread use of steroids in baseball.
They didn't listen then and many are still not willing to listen now....

[sadoug]

well said James...I agree with hembo that JB has stood by Everett for his fielding ability and I appreciate that line of thinking...I would never have traded Metzger for anyone and he couldnt hit a lick.Everett could be a 250 hitter i think and in fact in the 2 weeks before he got hurt, he was the best hitter we had it seemed....Anyway...Dennis said it best...we win either way.

[jbarron]

A big Amen to James' entire post.

[jamesa46]

Thanks Guys
It's nice to know that are still fans around who believe that the integrity of the game is still more important than caressing the inflated egos of bloated HGH junkies.

[south]

Tejada's 31 and seriously regressed last year, I'd take a chance on him for Burke, Everett/Wigginton, but that's about it.