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Post by hembo36 on Aug 17, 2007 22:05:35 GMT -5
Not just this year but which one of these guys would you build around?
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Post by mikegallo on Aug 18, 2007 20:39:50 GMT -5
Oswalt would be last of that group.
He's the only one who's K rate is still coming down, while his walk rate is going up.
Oswalt is not the dominate pitcher he once was.
It's a fact jack.
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Post by vega51 on Aug 18, 2007 21:20:47 GMT -5
Peavfy, and i predicted that one last year.
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Post by astrobuddy on Aug 19, 2007 0:00:29 GMT -5
Yes.. lets make sure we all know that Vega predicted something. His fragile little ego needs the assurance.
Predicted what? Peavy's 11-14 season with a 4.09 ERA?
Vega.. you havent been right on a player yet. If I were you, I would quit making predictions on future star players. You aint very good at it.
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Post by vega51 on Aug 19, 2007 6:45:31 GMT -5
Nahhhh, I said that EVENTOUGH he had a 4.09 ERA that he was going to be BETTER than Oswalt.
Hmmmmm, i was right, lmao
Now, DIFFERENCE, i predict good things for players, you PREDICT injuries.
You are a mean dude that wishes bad to other people and does not surprise me KNOWING your history.
You'll do ANYTHING to protect the Astros, ANYTHING.
Shame on you, shame on you.
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Post by astrobuddy on Aug 19, 2007 9:49:00 GMT -5
Yes, I will do anything to "protect" my team. ( whatever the hell that means) Thats what a fan does.
When did Peavy get better than Oswalt? Oohh... I forgot. You are the king of the small sample sizes. So since Peavy is having a better year THIS YEAR, because you predicted it the previous years dont matter. Peavy is having a better year than Oswalt, but he isnt better over the career, not yet. So you arent right about that.
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Post by vega51 on Aug 19, 2007 9:56:05 GMT -5
Look at age, look at STUFF.
The difference between you and me is i follow ALL players, you only follow astros players.
I remember when i mentioned King Felix and you had NO IDEA WHO HE WAS.
Also, when i mentioned Sampson for the first time and you had NO IDEA who he was.
And, like i said, HE WAS GOING TO HAVE A BETTER YEAR, I did not say he had a better career. Now, I would NOT be surprise to see Peavy finishing with a better career than Oswalt, but my prediction was BASED ON THIS YEAR, not the past, so be INTELLIGENT for once.
LMAO
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Post by astrobuddy on Aug 19, 2007 10:41:35 GMT -5
When did you mention Sampson and Felix and I didnt know who they were? I did however know who Sampson was. Of course I dont know some random player in the Seattle Mariners minor leagues. And why do you think thats a bad thing. I understand that you have NO LIFE and you live and breath with these players, but thats you. It doesnt matter to me what happens in Seattle or NY or Boston. I dont care. Most people dont. I follow the Astros and the NL Central and the NL to some extent.
Your obsession with these players makes you weird, but smart.
Get over yourself. You aint that smart.
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Post by redbaron on Aug 19, 2007 10:44:46 GMT -5
News Bulletin for Vega: Peavy is NOT better than Oswalt. Until Peavy puts up the numbers that Oswalt has, your argument is baseless.
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Post by vega51 on Aug 19, 2007 11:05:55 GMT -5
This year he is. Second, he started to pitch in the majors at 22, Oswalt? 24. Peavy, 2004, 2.27 ERA, Oswalt 3.49 2005, 2.88, Oswalt, 2.94 2006, DIFFERENCE IN FAVOR OF OSWALT. 2007, Big difference in favor of Peavy again. So, out of last 4 years, Peavy is getting better ERA's and less hits per innings plus is 3 years younger. Actually, last year he had a 4.09 ERA but less hits than innings and over one K per inning so it was EASY to see Peavy having the kind of year he is having this year.
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Post by hembo36 on Aug 19, 2007 11:15:38 GMT -5
well vega..The poll clearly shows people cant seperate between being a fan and being ignorant..I can alomst guarantee you that if a i started a poll about the best 1b of all time gehrig foxx or berkman...i can promise you berkman would win
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Post by Coach on Aug 19, 2007 11:27:50 GMT -5
Vega and Astrobuddy, as a favor to me, if you guys want to go at each other, please do it in the foul pole section of the forum. I can't keep moving every thread there.
Thanks.
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Post by vega51 on Aug 19, 2007 11:43:20 GMT -5
Done.
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Post by 03flht2 on Aug 19, 2007 11:51:50 GMT -5
not necessary voting for Webb but you sure have to admire what he has done in his last 3 or so starts getting close to breaking the consecutive inning with a run record as a starter.
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Post by vega51 on Aug 19, 2007 12:01:49 GMT -5
I think i go Peavy, Webb and Oswalt
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