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Post by hembo36 on Oct 5, 2007 18:41:52 GMT -5
Other than maybe bagwell is there a worse post season player than arod?
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Post by astrobuddy on Oct 5, 2007 18:59:06 GMT -5
Plenty of them.... But do you mean out of likely HOF'ers?
Barry Bonds comes to mind.
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Post by chandler44 on Oct 5, 2007 21:27:52 GMT -5
You mean Arod, the guy that's hit .276/.366/.478 over his whole career in the playoffs? Not as good as his regular numbers, but far from being the worst post season player.
How 'bout Ted Williams? He only hit .200 in the playoffs.
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Post by jbarron on Oct 5, 2007 22:13:02 GMT -5
Not any much worse in the playoffs than Biggio and Bagwell. BTW......for you ARod lovers.......he has never played in the WS and it looks like he won't make it this year, either.
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Post by astrobuddy on Oct 5, 2007 22:27:34 GMT -5
The guy who is HOF and all world in the post season is ........ Lance Berkman. Great stats in the post season.
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Post by chandler44 on Oct 6, 2007 0:05:29 GMT -5
And that's all his fault.
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Post by sadoug on Oct 6, 2007 8:12:58 GMT -5
I am gonna say this again....Bagwell got a bad rap for lack of post season production.How many times did he walk?...I havnt looked it up, but I think lots.....How many times did he bat with men on base?...again, I havnt looked, but I think seldom....It was always easy to nail the Astros in the post season if they could keep bigio off base..which was always.
At bat after at bat, bagwell never saw a strike. At first he used to take his walks....later on, frustration set in and he started swinging at those way off the plate offerings.
Bagwell could walk and be on base for Berkman, but who was ever on base for him?
I understand we all do revisionist memory tricks, but thats how I remember it.
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Post by hembo36 on Oct 6, 2007 9:00:35 GMT -5
whats that .478 stat? slugging? if those are his averages over 3 playoff appearances i seriously question it
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Post by hembo36 on Oct 6, 2007 9:05:48 GMT -5
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Post by hembo36 on Oct 6, 2007 9:06:36 GMT -5
Rodriguez, who hit .314 with 54 home runs and 156 RBIs during the season, is 0-for-6 in this playoff series. He is an inexplicable 4-for-47 (.085) with no RBIs in his last 14 postseason games.
you're not telling me thats good are you?
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Post by dennis2112 on Oct 6, 2007 10:23:11 GMT -5
I am gonna say this again....Bagwell got a bad rap for lack of post season production.How many times did he walk?...I havnt looked it up, but I think lots.....How many times did he bat with men on base?...again, I havnt looked, but I think seldom....It was always easy to nail the Astros in the post season if they could keep bigio off base..which was always. At bat after at bat, bagwell never saw a strike. At first he used to take his walks....later on, frustration set in and he started swinging at those way off the plate offerings. Bagwell could walk and be on base for Berkman, but who was ever on base for him? I understand we all do revisionist memory tricks, but thats how I remember it. Well Bags did not have much of a sample but the numbers are like this: AB 106 Hits 24 (4 doubles and 2 HRs) RBI 13 BB 19 SO 25 BA .226 OBP .354 SLG .321 Now he had a good playoff run in 2004 in which he accumulated most of his hits and all his power numbers. It is obvious to anyone that chooses to see the truth that in most cases Bags was pressing due to the complete lack of support throughout the lineup. Bags had his issues in the playoffs but so do alot of great players. |
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Post by jbarron on Oct 6, 2007 10:39:49 GMT -5
Er, Chandler.........did you read that? I don't know if it's all his fault that ARod has never played in the WS but, he sure hasn't done anything to help the cause. He sucks worse than I thought in post-season play.
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Post by astrobuddy on Oct 6, 2007 11:39:23 GMT -5
What alot of people refuse to admit when talking about Biggio and Bagwell in the playoffs is who they were facing.... The Braves and Padres.... That was some great pitching the Astros faced year in and year out.
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Post by jbarron on Oct 6, 2007 11:57:38 GMT -5
Other teams faced those teams, too. Neither of them won a World Series.
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Post by hembo36 on Oct 6, 2007 12:15:16 GMT -5
Im not calling him out but im interested in seeing where chandlers lifetime ,post season #'s, are coming from..Dont blow a gasket chandler...Just curious....
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